Now I have to go round every user on every ubuntu box and change it…

> trainboy wrote:
> Also, there’s no secret registry involved. All of the Gnome options
> are stored in a directory called “.gconf” under the logged in user’s
> home directory.

You’re having a laugh, right? .gconf is a hidden directory that’s invisible to ‘normal’ users. The Update Manager is an excellent and easy way for all users to stay up to date. Shoving it in their face is very very annoying. Having to run a configuration editor which is not on the menus to change this in-your-face behaviour is exactly the sort of thing that pushes ‘normal’ users away.

The file you cite (~/.gconf/apps/update-notifier/%gconf.xml) does not appear to exist until gconf-editor is run, so the can’t even be scripted across a system. Also my tests show that editing the %gconf.xml file does not update the value displayed in gconf-editor.

In short, it’s a mess.

Cheers, al.

Now I have to go round every user on every ubuntu box and change it…

> trainboy wrote:
> Also, there’s no secret registry involved. All of the Gnome options
> are stored in a directory called “.gconf” under the logged in user’s
> home directory.

You’re having a laugh, right? .gconf is a hidden directory that’s invisible to ‘normal’ users. The Update Manager is an excellent and easy way for all users to stay up to date. Shoving it in their face is very very annoying. Having to run a configuration editor which is not on the menus to change this in-your-face behaviour is exactly the sort of thing that pushes ‘normal’ users away.

The file you cite (~/.gconf/apps/update-notifier/%gconf.xml) does not appear to exist until gconf-editor is run, so the can’t even be scripted across a system. Also my tests show that editing the %gconf.xml file does not update the value displayed in gconf-editor.

In short, it’s a mess.

Cheers, al.

Gnome options are local options that belong to the logged-in user. Thus, if you set this option for the wrong user (e.g. root), the setting could appear to disappear if you log out and log in again (as someone else).

This is especially important for Mythbuntu because you usually need to set the option for the user that is automatically logged in and runs the frontend.

Also, there’s no secret registry involved. All of the Gnome options are stored in a directory called “.gconf” under the logged in user’s home directory. In this case, you’ll find the option in question in:

/home/trainboy/.gconf/apps/update-notifier/\%gconf.xml

If you are comfortable hacking XML, you could just hack this file directly.

Gnome options are local options that belong to the logged-in user. Thus, if you set this option for the wrong user (e.g. root), the setting could appear to disappear if you log out and log in again (as someone else).

This is especially important for Mythbuntu because you usually need to set the option for the user that is automatically logged in and runs the frontend.

Also, there’s no secret registry involved. All of the Gnome options are stored in a directory called “.gconf” under the logged in user’s home directory. In this case, you’ll find the option in question in:

/home/trainboy/.gconf/apps/update-notifier/%gconf.xml

If you are comfortable hacking XML, you could just hack this file directly.

Don’t suppose the guys who build Mythbuntu are ever going to get the concept that its supposed to be an appliance, not a hackers toy. That would be a great day. Nobody wants to see how clever you are, just watch TV.

BTW, while we’re on the subject of upgrades. Upgrades for an appliance are not a real smart idea anyway. Since most of the time, upgrading invariably breaks something, how do you explain to the user that their DVR isn’t talking to the network anymore? Last time I did an upgrade (two weeks ago), the NIC stopped working, my NVidia driver went away, the capture cards didn’t work because the saa7134-dvb driver was removed, smbfs was left out so my shared video volumes wouldn’t mount, I couldn’t hear the sound, etc., etc. Hardly a seamless upgrade that you’d want to foist off on some hapless TV viewer automatically.

Don’t suppose the guys who build Mythbuntu are ever going to get the concept that its supposed to be an appliance, not a hackers toy. That would be a great day. Nobody wants to see how clever you are, just watch TV.

BTW, while we’re on the subject of upgrades. Upgrades for an appliance are not a real smart idea anyway. Since most of the time, upgrading invariably breaks something, how do you explain to the user that their DVR isn’t talking to the network anymore? Last time I did an upgrade (two weeks ago), the NIC stopped working, my NVidia driver went away, the capture cards didn’t work because the saa7134-dvb driver was removed, smbfs was left out so my shared video volumes wouldn’t mount, I couldn’t hear the sound, etc., etc. Hardly a seamless upgrade that you’d want to foist off on some hapless TV viewer automatically.