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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-2117</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@knownasilya: you can change back the original login screen easy via the application  &lt;em&gt;startupmanager&lt;/em&gt;. It is not included in Ubuntu, you have to install it manually</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@knownasilya: you can change back the original login screen easy via the application  <em>startupmanager</em>. It is not included in Ubuntu, you have to install it manually</p>
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		<title>By: knownasilya</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>knownasilya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how could i change back the login screen to the original ubuntu version, and the loading splash screen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how could i change back the login screen to the original ubuntu version, and the loading splash screen</p>
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		<title>By: KDE 4.1 en Linux Mint Elyssa/ Ubuntu Hardy &#171; Trabajando de 9 a 5</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-1668</link>
		<dc:creator>KDE 4.1 en Linux Mint Elyssa/ Ubuntu Hardy &#171; Trabajando de 9 a 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fuente: http://maketecheasier.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Gerard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; KDE 4.1 is really nice.</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; KDE 4.1 is really nice.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re not willing to geekily beat it into behaving, don&#8217;t try it yet. But if you are: how to set it up in Ubuntu Hardy (you have to add an experimental repository); install gtk-qt-engine-kde4 to solve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you&#8217;re not willing to geekily beat it into behaving, don&#8217;t try it yet. But if you are: how to set it up in Ubuntu Hardy (you have to add an experimental repository); install gtk-qt-engine-kde4 to solve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sinn</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-1627</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attempted to remove the kinfocenter-kde4 package:
dpkg --remove kinfocenter-kde4

That worked fine, but when attempting to rerun:
apt-get -f install

I received an error regarding files that were trying to be installed that already existed in the kdebase-runtime-data package... that  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb was trying to install...namely the file:
/usr/lib/kde4/share/doc/kde4/HTML/en/kcontrol/kwindecoration/index.cache.bz2

Unfortunately that package is a critical package to KDE4 and uninstalling it would basically purge all KDE4 packages off my system.

Since I kinda know what I&#039;m doing and I&#039;m too lazy to remove KDE4 packages already installed... I did a --force-all replacement of the following package:

sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb

Then I re-ran:
sudo apt-get -f install

and let all the other packages install that were held up by the overwrite conflict.

Now to restart X and see if that worked...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attempted to remove the kinfocenter-kde4 package:<br />
dpkg &#8211;remove kinfocenter-kde4</p>
<p>That worked fine, but when attempting to rerun:<br />
apt-get -f install</p>
<p>I received an error regarding files that were trying to be installed that already existed in the kdebase-runtime-data package&#8230; that  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb was trying to install&#8230;namely the file:<br />
/usr/lib/kde4/share/doc/kde4/HTML/en/kcontrol/kwindecoration/index.cache.bz2</p>
<p>Unfortunately that package is a critical package to KDE4 and uninstalling it would basically purge all KDE4 packages off my system.</p>
<p>Since I kinda know what I&#8217;m doing and I&#8217;m too lazy to remove KDE4 packages already installed&#8230; I did a &#8211;force-all replacement of the following package:</p>
<p>sudo dpkg &#8211;force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb</p>
<p>Then I re-ran:<br />
sudo apt-get -f install</p>
<p>and let all the other packages install that were held up by the overwrite conflict.</p>
<p>Now to restart X and see if that worked&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sinn</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you might also run into this error message when attempting the apt-get install explained in the article:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kubuntu-kde4-desktop: Depends: kde-window-manager but it is not going to be installed
                        Depends: kdebase-bin-kde4 but it is not going to be installed
                        Recommends: konqueror-kde4 but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try &#039;apt-get -f install&#039; with no packages (or specify a solution).

...

apt-get -f install fails as well if you already have KDE4 installed from the official packages due to files being moved from one package to another... so before attempting to install KDE4.1 from the source listed in the article you should --purge any official KDE4 packages or you&#039;ll need to know how to force overwrites of packages using dpkg...

otherwise you&#039;ll see things like this...

The following extra packages will be installed:
  kde-window-manager kdebase-bin-kde4 kdebase-data-kde4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kde-window-manager kdebase-bin-kde4
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kdebase-data-kde4
1 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 174 not upgraded.
98 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/3378kB of archives.
After this operation, 8577kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  kde-window-manager kdebase-data-kde4 kdebase-bin-kde4
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
(Reading database ... 389879 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kde-window-manager (from .../kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package kdebase-workspace-data ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/doc/kde4/HTML/en/kcontrol/kwindecoration/index.cache.bz2&#039;, which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data
Preparing to replace kdebase-data-kde4 4:4.0.5-0ubuntu1~hardy1 (using .../kdebase-data-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kdebase-data-kde4 ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kcmusb/usb.ids&#039;, which is also in package kinfocenter-kde4
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Unpacking kdebase-bin-kde4 (from .../kdebase-bin-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kcm_usb.so&#039;, which is also in package kinfocenter-kde4
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_all.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you might also run into this error message when attempting the apt-get install explained in the article:</p>
<p>The following packages have unmet dependencies:<br />
  kubuntu-kde4-desktop: Depends: kde-window-manager but it is not going to be installed<br />
                        Depends: kdebase-bin-kde4 but it is not going to be installed<br />
                        Recommends: konqueror-kde4 but it is not going to be installed<br />
E: Unmet dependencies. Try &#8216;apt-get -f install&#8217; with no packages (or specify a solution).</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>apt-get -f install fails as well if you already have KDE4 installed from the official packages due to files being moved from one package to another&#8230; so before attempting to install KDE4.1 from the source listed in the article you should &#8211;purge any official KDE4 packages or you&#8217;ll need to know how to force overwrites of packages using dpkg&#8230;</p>
<p>otherwise you&#8217;ll see things like this&#8230;</p>
<p>The following extra packages will be installed:<br />
  kde-window-manager kdebase-bin-kde4 kdebase-data-kde4<br />
The following NEW packages will be installed:<br />
  kde-window-manager kdebase-bin-kde4<br />
The following packages will be upgraded:<br />
  kdebase-data-kde4<br />
1 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 174 not upgraded.<br />
98 not fully installed or removed.<br />
Need to get 0B/3378kB of archives.<br />
After this operation, 8577kB of additional disk space will be used.<br />
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?<br />
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!<br />
  kde-window-manager kdebase-data-kde4 kdebase-bin-kde4<br />
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y<br />
(Reading database &#8230; 389879 files and directories currently installed.)<br />
Unpacking kde-window-manager (from &#8230;/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb) &#8230;<br />
Replacing files in old package kdebase-workspace-data &#8230;<br />
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb (&#8211;unpack):<br />
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/doc/kde4/HTML/en/kcontrol/kwindecoration/index.cache.bz2&#8242;, which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data<br />
Preparing to replace kdebase-data-kde4 4:4.0.5-0ubuntu1~hardy1 (using &#8230;/kdebase-data-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_all.deb) &#8230;<br />
Unpacking replacement kdebase-data-kde4 &#8230;<br />
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_all.deb (&#8211;unpack):<br />
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kcmusb/usb.ids&#8217;, which is also in package kinfocenter-kde4<br />
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)<br />
Unpacking kdebase-bin-kde4 (from &#8230;/kdebase-bin-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb) &#8230;<br />
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb (&#8211;unpack):<br />
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kcm_usb.so&#8217;, which is also in package kinfocenter-kde4<br />
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)<br />
Errors were encountered while processing:<br />
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb<br />
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_all.deb<br />
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_amd64.deb<br />
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-1625</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan: Oops...that a typo error. thanks for pointing it out. Creating a new sources.list will do as well, but it really depend on individual preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan: Oops&#8230;that a typo error. thanks for pointing it out. Creating a new sources.list will do as well, but it really depend on individual preferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sinn</title>
		<link>http://maketecheasier.com/install-kde-41-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/07/31/comment-page-1#comment-1624</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t that be:
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
instead of:
sudo apt-get kubuntu-kde4-desktop

Also -- why don&#039;t you have people just create a new list file in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory instead of mucking up the &quot;default&quot; sources.list?

I typically create different .list files for each site that provides packages... like one for the ubuntu mozilla firefox dev team, one for kubuntu, one for mediabuntu and one for winehq...

Just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t that be:<br />
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop<br />
instead of:<br />
sudo apt-get kubuntu-kde4-desktop</p>
<p>Also &#8212; why don&#8217;t you have people just create a new list file in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory instead of mucking up the &#8220;default&#8221; sources.list?</p>
<p>I typically create different .list files for each site that provides packages&#8230; like one for the ubuntu mozilla firefox dev team, one for kubuntu, one for mediabuntu and one for winehq&#8230;</p>
<p>Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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